Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Time Change Reminder

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This is my friendly reminder that the time change is coming up. Daylight Saving Time (DST) for the United States ends Sunday, November 1, 2009 and Summertime for the European Union ends Sunday, October 25, 2009. When Daylight Saving Time ends, we turn our clocks back one hour.

For other parts of the world that observe DST, parts of Africa started DST at the beginning of September while other parts are ending it at the end of September. Most of Asia ends the end of October, though some end in September. For Australia (I know there are many Australian readers), it appears the Southern part of Australia is all that observes it, and you are all just starting DST. Same for South America. I am sure you know when your own DST is :)

For those of us turning our clocks back, this is the hardest of the two time changes. It is much easier to move clocks forward than to move them back. If this is your baby's first time moving clocks back, it will be the hardest one for her. Until she is a teenager :)

If you have a baby, or a one year old, you might want to consider my super slow time change strategies (linked below). If your child is two or older, it might not be a big deal. Some one year olds might not find it to be a big deal, either. If your child is super sensitive to sleep, you might want to take a longer approach to the time change.

My super slow approach is a month long strategy. You can start one month before or do two weeks before and two weeks after...it is up to you :) You can do any combo in between. You could also try to make it faster and adapt it to your own ideas for what is best for your child.

Here are the links to all time change posts on this blog:

24 comments:

Kim said...

I know I'm not commenting on the correct subject, but I looked for awhile and couldn't find the answer to my question. My question is, when dropping the evening nap, do you still feed and nap using the four hour stretch? My daughter, almost 8 months old, wakes about 7am, naps at 9am (usually about 1 1/2 hours), eats at 11am, naps at 1pm (usually 1-2 hours, it varies), eats at 3pm, goes to bed for the night at 8pm. Usually she goes down for nap at 5pm and may actually sleep about a half hour. I wake her at 6pm so she goes to bed for the night well. Will she eventually be able to stay awake all five hours between her afternoon nap and bedtime or should I be trying to make her afternoon nap later? I have never had any problems with her not sleeping at night, but usually it takes about a half hour to get to sleep for the evening nap. But she needs the evening nap or she's very cranky. Thanks so much for your suggestions!

Kim said...

She also eats again around 6:30 before she goes to bed for the night. Forgot to add that to my comment above.

SAmom said...

Hi Plowmanators, thanks for all the time and effort you put into this blog, you are helping lots of mommies out here!
I have done a quick search but couldn't find it - how would you cope with traveling on holiday to a zone 6 hours ahead in time, if you go for one week - you would probably just have just managed to adapt your LO (9 months old) to the new time frame to return home again? And if you keep the routine the same, the child would be up at night and sleeping during the day?

Kim said...

I think I may have found my answer. I should keep her on the four hour schedule and with time she will be able to stay awake the four or five hours between afternoon nap and bedtime. I don't mind her still taking the evening nap, just wasn't sure how to go about eliminating it and when. It just seems strange to me that she would be able to stay awake four hours between afternoon nap and bedtime when she doesn't stay awake more than two between the other naps. Is that common? I also have another question: It usually takes about 20 minutes of "talking" before she actually falls asleep for her naps and at bedtime. Am I waiting too long to put her down or putting her down too soon? When I put her down, she is usually to the point when she doesn't want to do anything but for me to hold her, but she still "talks" when she's in bed. Maybe I am waiting too long? Thanks so much for your help. Your blog has been so helpful to me. I have tried using BW multiple times since my baby was born, but always had the issue of not wanting to wake her up from naps. When she was three months old, she would sleep 4 or 5 hours at a time during the day and still sleep all night long. Now I realize that probably wasn't the smartest thing for me to let her do that. (She is not BF, though I tried for 3 weeks, pumping after every feeding and just didn't get any milk.) When she was four months, I went hard core BW and woke her up from naps. I now love BW and her being on a schedule as I can plan things knowing when she'll be awake and napping. Thanks so much for taking the time to keep up this blog and answering comments. I know you must be super busy with three children. You are appreciated!

Redheads said...

We are actually going on a 12 day road trip beginning October 31st. I am not sure how to approach the time change issue. Another catch is that where we are going will be in a different time zone, 1 hour later. So, I was thinking of just seeing how my 9 month DD does on vacation with wake up times, and then adjusting it as needed when we get back. This will be interesting! Any tips would be appreciated!

Angipas said...

Val, quick question. I am traveling with my 4 month old to another country, where there is a 2 hour difference. I am intending to keep the "home time" while we are there, for a month.

He goes to bed at 8 and do a DF @ 10-10:30.

That would put us going to sleep at 10 (away time) and dreamfeed at midnight or later.

I know BW talks about DF between 10 and 11. Or was it Hogg? Well, my question is, is there a specific reason why Df has to be bt 10 and 11, or is it ok as long as it is within x hours from bedtime?

The reason I will do this, is because over there, people don't really go to bed till later on, so bedtime @ 10 PM would be perfect.

THANKS!

Jennifer said...

Angipas, just a word of caution. I traveled with my 5 month old to a different state that was just one hour different than home. I intended to keep her on home time for the same reasons you have indicated. However, she woke up at her normal 7 am (even though that was 6 am at home). The place we were staying didn't have any room darkening capabilities and I think the light woke her. Within two days, she was on her normal schedule in the new time zone.

I hope it works for you to do as you plan, but be aware that your LO may have different plans :) A month is a long time, so you could definitely train him to go either way, but don't get too frustrated if he just adapts better than expected :) As always, we have to be flexible with our kids when we travel. Good luck with your travels!

Kelly said...

First of all, thanks so much for this blog, it has helped me learn about what kind of parent I would like to become.

I have posted about this before, but now it really needs to be addressed before the time change. My 6 month old daughter has been waking between 5:30 and 6:00 since she turned 5 months old. We have tried letting her sleep a full hour of her third nap, putting her to bed at 7:30 and she is up at 5:30, I tried Dr. Weissbluth's troubleshooting and put her to bed around 5:30 she was up at 4:45.

How do we get her to sleep till at least 6:30? She usually chills in her bed from 5:00 to 6:30 when I go in, she will roll around, play with her pacifer etc., but then I have no clue when to put her down for a nap. I have been sticking with 8:30 because that is when she gets to daycare and then 12:30 because that is when the whole school naps.

I usually get her home by 5:30 and sometimes she sleeps at school from 4:30 to 5:00 and sometimes not.

Lately, because she has just been tired we have put her to sleep at 6:30. She sleeps all through the night, but is up at 5:30 sometimes 6:00.

HELP! This time change will cause her to wake even earlier!!!!!

Sarah said...

Oh! Thank you so much for posting this! I am dreading it!

Penny said...

I am soooo glad I no longer have to deal with time change! My part of Australia had a 3-year trial which ended last March when the population voted against it. During those 3 years, my younger 2 babies both had to adapt to changes and I was not a happy mummy, especially during the early spring and late autumn weeks. Anyway, I am very thankful this year not to have the same issues again!!!
Thanks again for an excellent blog Val, it's a fantastic resource and I find useful info nearly every day!

JenniferMatt+3 said...

I have a question...this is our 3rd son we have done this program with! it's great....however we are having a little bit of a problem with this one! Our son will be 5 months on the 7th of October, and he has had some sleep issues from the beginning! He has had trouble with the 45 minute intruder, that we are still working through....he also has reflux and is on zantac for, it seems to help some...we also have found out that he is super sensative to dairy, and he is breastfed, so I have had to change my diet, but he is worth it....I say all that to say we have had a time with this one! Our first 2 boys were angel babies! Also fabulous sleepers, I really did everything thing the book said and they did it great, very few bumps along the road, now they are 7 1/2 and 5 1/2. My 3rd son is habitually waking at 5am for the past month now....I have tried everything I can think of to fix it....I tried Hogg's PU/PD....CIO....all to no avail! I tried nursing and putting right back to bed, and then he thinks it's waketime! Our waketime has to be 7am-7:15am....I have to take my other 2 children to school, and I have to have the schedule around the drop off and pick up times...which are 7:45am, and 2:30pm. He is currently on a 3-3 1/2 hr schedule right now, due to his reflux and sensative tummy issues....and also napping issues....wake and nurse at 7am, 10am,1pm,4pm,7pm,10:30pm DF..wakes early at 5am! I also have administered a paci....which he takes on and off for the whole 2 hours! I have even rocked him back to sleep, but I don't want this to become a habit! Please help! Thanks...

Plowmanators said...

Kim, it depends on how old she is when she drops it. It will probably be quite a while before she can go five hours of being awake.

You will either need to move her bedtime up to 7 or wait to drop that third nap until she takes longer naps in the day so she is waking later from her afternoon nap.

Plowmanators said...

SAmom, You are welcome! That is a hard situation, with lots of possible solutions (not really solutions, just ways to deal :) )--all with good and bad points.

If it were me, I think I would just go and try to adapt her to the new time when we got there. I would be prepared to be quite flexible. Try to expose her to lots of natural light so her biological clock can change more quickly. Then I would switch her back when we got home. I would expect there to be some time once we got home for her to recover before returning to normal.

Plowmanators said...

Kim, yes, that is common to be able to stay awake longer later in the day than earlier in the day.

With the talking before nap...it can be either. She can take a long time to fall asleep if she was up too long. She can also take a long time to fall asleep if she was put down too soon :)

One hint is that she is taking shorter naps sometimes, so I would try shortening her awake time before I would try lengthening it.

Thanks for othe thanks! :)

Plowmanators said...

Redheads, I would start to move her back (since you will be moving clocks back anyway).Then I would just keep her on your home time while you are gone. When I move time zones that are just 1 hour different, I always just keep them on home time.

Plowmanators said...

Angipas,

Sunlight has a lot to do with natural biological sleep patterns, so there is a good chance your LO won't stay on home time for a month. That is a really long period of time for a baby :) For a 4 month old, that is a quarter of his life. So like Jennifer suggested, I would be prepared for him to have different plans. I would also try to have room darkening capability.

The reasoning for the DF being between 10-11 (Hogg) is because any later and it disrupts night sleep. If he sticks to home time, it won't be a problem. But if he switches to local time, then you might need to switch the DF, too. Have fun!

Plowmanators said...

Kelly, I suggest you first see the post "5-8 month sleep disruptions" to see if any of those apply.

Plowmanators said...

lol Sarah :) You are welcome.

Plowmanators said...

Penny, that is nice to not have to deal with it. But I do like the sun going down later in the summer. I think we should just have a permanent time change :)

Plowmanators said...

JenniferMatt+3, honestly with a baby with reflux, you just have to be patient. Don't stress so much about bad habits and be sure he is comfortable.

One thing, be sure his Zantac is the appropriate dosage. It is based on weight, so it will need to be changed often. You might want to try for prevacid if zantac doesn't work well anymore. Lots of moms report that zantac works initially, but loses its effectiveness after a while. Be sure to see the blog label "reflux"

Angipas said...

Thanks Val, and for those of you following the subject. He was done with home time by the second day. We are now going to bed 8 PM local time and we have lots of upset uncles and aunts. Oh well! I am a mother first!

Thanks for all the advise!

Jennifer said...

Angipas, you are exactly right! You know what's best for your baby. Way to stick to your guns!

Dori said...

Thanks for your time change hints! I have gotten lots of useful tips from your blog, but the time change hints were great b/c it never would have occurred to me that there could be an issue with this (though in hind sight it seems obvious). Anyway, my 7 month old handled it without a hitch thanks to your tips. Since I work, we couldn't implement it until Friday, when I work from home, but we rolled him forward 1/2 hour on Friday and 45 mins on Saturday and so on Sunday he was right back to being on schedule. I'm sure it's not always *that* easy with all babies, but the concept of moving in small increments over a couple days is really helpful. Thanks again!

Plowmanators said...

Dori, you are welcome! And thanks for sharing how you did that. It will be helpful for moms next year!

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