Thursday, June 17, 2010

Poll Results: If baby experienced 45 minute intruder and then went back to longer naps, how did that happen?

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I finally found out and fixed the cause: 38 votes (13%)
Baby just needed to outgrow it/phase: 182 votes (63%)
Not positive, but I think it is something I fixed: 25 votes (9%)
No clue: 45 votes (16%)

Total of 290 votes
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Jennifer said...

Hello! Thank you for your site - it has been such a help to me, a new mom who is trying desperately to get Babywise to work!

I'm experiencing a lot of trouble with my 13-week old with the 45-minute intruder. For the past week, my daughter's first nap goes very well. The second nap however ends after 45 minutes. I've tried shortening the wake time, but it still happens. I've tried coming in to giver her a pacifier and leaving her alone (usually she seems content, no crying), but she will not fall asleep again so she ends up spending 1.5 hours or so alone in the crib. I'm comfortable with 30 or 45 minutes of this, but not that long! Of course, since this second nap goes like this, she is exhausted by the time she eats again. I try to then put her down for her third nap earlier, but the same thing happens. I'm just not sure what to do!

I've tested if it is a feeding issue, to no luck. Also, she is continuing to gain weight quickly, so I don't believe it is a lactation issue.

Any ideas???

lwicks said...

Jennifer - maybe she needs to be kept up longer? I know my son, if he isn't awake long enough for his awake time, he may go to sleep well when I put him down, but he wakes up early from his nap and won't go back to sleep. He's happy in his crib, just not tired :o) I'm definitely not as knowledgeable at babywise as Valerie seems to be, but thought I'd share my 2 cents :o)

Jennifer said...

Thank you! I actually began thinking this myself and have played with it a little - yes, I think either I wasn't keeping her up long enough, or I wasn't stimulating her enough during her wake time. I have figured out the first 2 naps of the day so far - the others are still a mystery to me! This never crossed my mind before because it is never a solution in the Babywise book. Truely a representation that every baby is different!

Plowmanators said...

Jennifer, I am glad you are getting it figured out :) It is tricky. I think you are on the right path. At first in life, you want to keep things very mellow for waketime, but at some point, you need to start upping stimulation levels and/or waketime length. Thanks lwicks for adding your thoughts!

Kristen said...

Val- I am trying to be patient with the 45min intruder, but I am going on 5 months of short naps. I have tried everything I can think of with no luck. I had it set in my mind that at 6 months we would outgrow this. But 6 months has just passed last week, and no luck. I tried CIO again, no luck. I have changed jammies, white noise, room darkening, shorter wake time, longer waketime. No LUCK!! The strange thing is that nighttime is never effected. Thank goodness, not complaining. Just frusterated. Any advice would be great! -Kristen

Plowmanators said...

Kristen, just wait it out, and expect 45 minute naps so you can be happy. Brayden took them until he was 6.5 months old, so I know what it is like :) You will just be much happier if you plan for 45 minute, then you can be surprised if it goes longer rather than consistently frustrated.

Saskia+Joel said...

Hi! My little girl is 8 weeks old today and we are having trouble with her daytime naps. She is doing really well from her 4pm feed and sleeps about 7-8 hours after her 10pm dreamfeed. During the day though we have been trying with the CIO as she wakes after 45 min. In the last few days she has improved to one hour sometimes and also has slept through to the next feed sometimes but I just want to know how long we do this for before we try something else like going in and settling her? Also if she wakes up close to the 2.5 hr mark when we are on the 3 hou cycle should we just feed her then so she isn't mixing up the feed wake sleep cycle? She is really stuck on the 45 min thing...

Plowmanators said...

I prefer to respond first and see if she is hungry. She is close to a growth spurt time. She is also close to a "wonder week" time (see blog label for more). Once you have ruled everything else out, that is when I would think about moving to CIO.

Coop said...

Hi! I know I'm a year late in the poll, but just had a baby and have been very excited to read your site! I have so many questions, but for now, my son is 4.5 weeks old and this week has started waking up after 45 minutes into his nap. You said that your son did this, what do you do once he's awake? Do you get them up or leave them there? Anything you can offer would be wonderful!

Plowmanators said...

Coop, when he woke early, I got him up and fed him.

Be sure to see the posts on troubleshooting short naps. What I did with my son isn't necessarily what I would do now because I know more and have more experience. So be sure to see the posts I have on the topic.

Kristi said...


First, I wanted to thank you for all of the helpful information I have found on your blog. It has been a great resource as I have been figuring out how to be a good mom to my little boy. Second, I have a question for you. I have a sweet little four-month old son, and we've been battling the 45-minute intruder for weeks now. I've read and re-read every post on the blog that has to do with naps and the 45-minute intruder. I've tried everything I can think of; and I mean everything--addressing feeding issues, the swing, CIO, etc. I've read and re-read Babywise, as well as Healthy Sleep Habits . . . But his naps are still typically 45 minutes--all of them! So, in all of my research, I came across a statistic from the National Sleep Foundation that says babies between 3 and 12 months should be sleeping 12-15 hours in a 24-hour period. So, I did the math. We put him down at night at 8:00 pm, and he wakes up around 7:00 am. If I am following the eat/play/sleep routine, he is getting 4 naps a day. So if each of those naps is 45 minutes long, he is sleeping a total of 14 hours every 24 hours, which is on the high end of the recommended amount.

Am I missing something here? Is there a problem with 45 minute naps (other than the fact that I don't get as much done)?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Plowmanators said...

Kristi, It sounds like you have tried everything, so at this point I would just not stress about it.


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