Wednesday, January 9, 2008

Sleep Routine

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It is a good idea to have a solid routine before sleep time to signal your little one that it is time to sleep.

Nap Routine
I prefer the least amount of "show" prior to a nap--especially now knowing that the older they get, the more tactics they use to delay bedtime. I want to have as few tactics in place to start with because believe me, your child will do everything he can think of to make naptime come a little later. A drink of water, a story, a hug, a kiss, a song, one more song, last song...you get the picture. They are smart!

  • With a newborn, many people like to rock their baby to a point of sleepiness before putting them down in the crib. I think this is a good idea. I didn't do it with either children, but will possibly do it with the next. If you choose to do this, be sure to stop it at a young age. You want to move to a really CIO when your child is old enough, and you will have to feel that out. My thoughts are I will stop around 3-4 weeks old if I think baby is ready for it. I would guess most babies would be ready to stop this by 8 weeks. You don't want your baby to become dependent on rocking; it is only something to help a young baby have more success with CIO. Only do it if your child needs it.
  • Here is my routine with my nearly 9 month old. It has been the same since birth. I kiss her and hug her, etc. Then I lay her down in her bed and sing "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" to her. Then I tell her to sleep well and that I love her and that she my princess, etc. Then I kiss my fingers and touch her nose. She smiles at me the whole time. Recently, she has started to roll to her tummy and start trying to scoot around the bed. I just leave her that way because when I put her back on her back she cries.
  • Here is my routine with my 2.5 year old. His routine has evolved over time. It started the same as Kaitlyn's is now, but as he got older (about 16 months old), he started requesting things. We read a story for a while, but I curbed that because he was using it as a delay tactic. I also curbed it because I realized once I had the new baby (Kaitlyn) she would have a feeding at 1 and his nap starts at 1. I needed a routine that was consistently under 5 minutes. I do the hugs, kisses, etc. He lays in bed and I sing "Brahma's Lullaby"( I am kind of sentimental about stuff so I gave each child their own song). As I sing, I rub his back if he is laying on his belly. Then I tell him to have a nice nap, assure him we will play once he gets up, and that I love him, etc.
Bedtime Routine
You will want a routine for bedtime also. Bedtime routines are often different from nap routines, and that is a good idea. Babies are smart and will recognize that something different is coming.
  • Many people do their baths at night to settle their children down for the night. I do my baths in the morning so it is not included in my routine, but it could be in yours.
  • Our bedtime routine is pretty much the same for each child. For the nearly 9 month old, I put her in her pajamas. Then I read her one story. Then we say a prayer with her. This is followed by hugs and kisses. Then I put her in bed, sing, and tell her I love her and end with "I will see you in the morning time, love you!" (there are times it is not I, but my husband doing these things).
  • For the 2.5 year old, our routine is very similar. My husband puts him in his pajamas and then Brayden picks three stories to read. Then they read the stories followed by hugs and kisses. Then I take Brayden to bed and we have a prayer. Then he lays down, I cover him with blankies, and I sing. Then I tell him I love him and to sleep well and that I will see him in the morning time (as with Kaitlyn, there are nights the roles of mommy and daddy are reversed). I would like to note that it is a good idea to limit the number of books read at bedtime, otherwise story time can really be drawn out. It is also nice to do it somewhere other than the bed or even the bedroom. Then you read your stories and go off to bed rather than already being there.
You can do whatever you want for your routines. Just be sure what you do has the following criteria:
  • It is consistent day to day and night to night.
  • It covers the necessities.
  • It is cozy and happy. You don't want naptime and bedtime to become a battle.
  • You can do it anywhere. You want to be able to go out of town and visit people and places. If you use things specific to your home, you will not have as pleasant of a trip.
Reader Questions:

47 comments:

Mahal said...

Hi, I am currently training my 14WO daughter to sleep on her own using CIO (I started this past Monday). She sleeps in her playpen for naps and bedtime, which we keep in our room. Should I have started training her in her own crib (in her own room) instead of the playpen? I'm not sure if this will mess up her progress. Any advise would help.
Thanks so much!

Mahal said...

Hi, just to update: I placed my daughter in her crib (in her own room) for her last nap and bedtime last night. I am a proud mom...she adjusts really well! She still cries a bit when I start her sleep routine, but it's not the same heartbreaking cry when CIO bootcamp started (which was this past Monday, so we're on day 5). Thanks again for all the helpful information on this blog! You are a blessing!

Plowmanators said...

Congrats on the improvement! I would say it is good to have baby sleep in her own bed, but it is also good to have her sleep in a different bed in a different room every so often to help her be comfortable when she is sleeping somewhere different. It will depend on her personality. My son didn't need to sleep in other places, but for my daughter, I think it was good to have her sleep in various places. I still have her take one nap a day in the playpen in my room.

Mamaof1 said...

Our bedtime routine for our 6 week old son is nurse, change his diaper and put on pjs, nurse. I then say a prayer with him, give him some kisses, and put him in his crib. I would say he is semi-asleep when I put him down. He usually falls asleep with little to no crying. Do you feel that at this age he should be wide awake before putting him to bed at night? Thanks.

The Young Family said...

Have you had any issues with your older one getting out of bed numerous times at nap and bed times? Our 17 month old has been in a "big boy bed" (it's just a mattress on the floor) for the past couple months, mostly because he'd wake himself up 3-4 times each night having gotten stuck in weird positions in his crib (he's pretty tall for his age). Needless to say, we're about to pull our hair out trying to get him to stay in bed once we've gone through the routine. We're consistent in our routine - bath, pj's, story, prayer, kisses - but then it's easily 45 minutes to an hour of him getting out of bed. Typically, we get him into bed by 7:45, but then it's pushing 9pm before he falls asleep. He fully understands what he's supposed to do (if we ask him, he'll point to the bed and hop back in), but simply refuses to do so, despite any discipline, comforting, rocking until drowsy, etc. The only thing we've found to work for the most part is standing in the farthest corner where he can't see us but he knows we're there so we tell him to lay down the moment he pops his head up. I don't really want to do this every nap and bed time for the next few months, so what should we do?

Plowmanators said...

Mamaof1, I am sorry I missed your question. I think that sounded just fine--he wasn't nursed to sleep or anything, just sleepy before getting in bed which sounds pretty normal to me.

Plowmanators said...

Young Family,

I have had that problem at nap time with Brayden, but only in the last month. I think I have solved the problem (it has been two weeks of success), but it was in ways you work with a 3.5 year old, not a 17 month old.

I think it sounds like this is a freedom that he just isn't ready for yet. Since you are needing to move him out of a crib in order to get him in a bigger bed, I would do some things so the freedom of getting off a matress on the floor isn't so available to him. When we moved Bradyen over, we moved him to a twin bed that was high off the floor. He couldn't even really get into bed easily without help. We had a step-stool there for him, but it took him a couple of months to grow into it. If you got a twin bed that was tall enough he couldn't get in and out easily, I think he would think about it before getting out. We then put the bed against the wall and then put a side rail up. He had a headboard. At the foot of the bed we put a pillow, and a pillow also between the side rail and the end of the bed. These things all created physical boundaries for him. We never had a problem with him getting out of bed (and actually our recent problem was not with that bed--I had him napping in my bed). He never fell out or anything. See this post for more on the transition:

Transitioning from a Crib to a Bed : http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/05/transitioning-from-crib-to-bed.html

natcase said...

I've been following babywise for 6.5mths but need someones opinion on what is currently going on. my daughter slept thru the night from 9 weeks till 4.5mths. Since that time i can't get her to sleep thru the night. She naps amazing during the day but each night she gets up once, eats and goes back to sleep. She never gets up at the same time. it ranges from 1am to 4am. so its hard to know whether thats true hunger or habit. I started feeding her solids at 5mths because i thought she had started waking because of hunger. but since its gone on so long - its hard to know. She is still on a 3hr schedule although sometimes 3.5.
i figure CIO is my last choice but i'm worried about trying that because my baby screams and she's teething right now too. so i dont want her to think we are not their to console her. maybe i'll try giving her water instead of breast feeding?
thanks for your advice

Plowmanators said...

natcase,

Since she isn't waking at the same time every night, my guess would be that it isn't a habit issue. Whether or not it is for sure out of hunger is hard to say; it could be a temperature issue, teeth issue, etc. See these posts for guidance:

4 month Sleep Problems : http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/05/4-month-sleep-problems.html

5-8 Month Sleep Disruptions : http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/05/6-month-sleep-disruptions.html

Kaya's mama said...

Hi. I am leaving a lot of questions these days:) You said in your post that your first child's bedtime was 800 since your husband got home later. This is our issue. Mu husband gets home around 7 and would like to do the bedtime routine with our daughter. Currently she has her bath before feeding and bed which is at 7. She wakes very early(usually 6) and even getting her to 7pm is a battle. How can we change her schedule so that she can sleep later and daddy can do her bedtime routine starting at 7 or 730?

Plowmanators said...

Kaya's Mama,

I would try to move her whole day back, so I would start her mornings later. See the blog label "time change" for ideas on how to do that.

Drews*Mama said...

Hello! I just found your site and have been reading nonstop for the past week. I have already learned so much! Thanks!
My son just turned 2 months old yesterday. The past few weeks he was going through a growth spurt, so I took your advice (and the advice of BW) and fed him every time he woke up early from a nap for a few days until my milk caught up and he got back on his 3 hour schedule.
The problem that I am having right now is that he cries every night when I lay him down after his 7:30 and 10:30 feedings. He has always been the type to put himself to sleep and does so during the day. However, the last 2 feedings of the day are a problem. Usually, it is b/c his tummy hurts (I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong there, either) but even if it doesn't hurt, he still cries for an hour or more...we've even given in a few times and rocked him to sleep.
So...do you have any idea why his tummy may be hurting him at the same time every night and why he is having such a hard time getting to sleep at the same time every night? Thanks!

Plowmanators said...

That time of day is commonly a fussy one for babies. If he will sleep well at other times of day, I would just put him in a swing or something at 7:30. Also, be sure he isn't getting too much stimulation at that time of day.

For his tummy, if you are breastfeeding, I would keep a food log of what you are eating to see if there is something you eat that can be upsetting him. If it is gas or something, give him gas drops. Good luck!

Skyla said...

I have a 8.5 wo that for the past week is waking up about 45 minutes into her nap. She will not go back to sleep. I am wondering how many days should I continue to feed her when she wakes up early? I feel like maybe she is eating too much and then she gets a belly ache? She is on formula and taking in 6oz at each feeding.

Plowmanators said...

Skyla,

You can assume a baby is through a growth spurt after about a week. At that point, I would guess she is waking out of habit or some other problem. At that point I would start troubleshooting naps. See

Naps: Troubleshooting: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2007/12/naps-troubleshooting.html

Kristy Shreve Powers said...

I realize you may not see this since the original post was so long ago, but I was curious what you did with Brayden at 3.5 years regarding getting out of bed at naptime/bedtime. I haven't been able to find this elsewhere on the blog--sorry if I've missed it. I have a 3-year-old who's had trouble with this for a while now. He pops in and out of his bed and room constantly throughout naptime and bedtime. It interferes with his sleep, and I know that he still needs that nap most days. We have tried many things with him that didn't work. Locking his bedroom door so he can't get out might work, but I don't want to do that except as last resort and also it doesn't address him staying in his actual bed. Thanks!

Plowmanators said...

Kristy, it is somewhere...I think it is a post called "in action, find your child's currency." If you click on the "in action" blog label, you should see it.

Basically what we did was pick something he loves to do that I don't mind him not doing. This is playing video or computer games (age appropriate). If he stays in bed, he earns the priviledge to do it that day. If not, no game time.

We also taught him how to tell time so he knew when he could get up. Then one day we had to take away his clock, which caused major drama, but it fixed the problem.

Lonnie and Aymee said...

I have a 13 week old boy, and we have been pretty consistent with a good routine during the day (eat, awake time, and naps). Though he sometimes cries when going to nap, he can pretty much fall asleep without crying must of the time. But about sleeping during nights, it is not going very well. Until he was 9 weeks old I used to put him to bed after a bath and feeding at 10pm. Since it was really late, we have changed it to put him to bed at 7pm (last feeding at 6pm). He sleeps pretty well until 11, then cries for feeding, and after that he wakes up randomly either once or twice during the night. Are we doing something wrong? Since I have been feeding every time he wakes up, I have also noticed that he is not very willing to eat at his 6am feeding. Is there something we can do to help? Thanks

Kristy Shreve Powers said...

Lonnie and Aymee, I have a few thoughts. I would try doing prep for bed before 6pm, feeding at 6, and then putting him down for the night right afterward. This is what works for us. You may want to try different dreamfeed times (between 10 and 11pm) to see if any time is better than another for helping him sleep through the rest of the night. It sounds like he doesn't need all of the feedings you give him during the night since he doesn't eat well at 6am. You could even try dropping the dreamfeed altogether if nothing else works. Some babies are disrupted by the feeding after bedtime. My son was one of the ones who didn't sleep well through the night until I gave up on that late evening feeding. In your case, I might try different dreamfeed times first, though. Hope something in there was helpful. :)

Plowmanators said...

Lonnie and Aymee, Kristy has some good ideas for you.

I would wake him at 10ish instead of waiting until 11. Like Kristy said, though, work with times to see which is best for him.

Also, it sounds like he is ready to drop a nighttime feeding. See the post "nighttime sleep issues--revised and updated" for ideas on why he might be waking and what to do about it. It was written this month.

mindibz said...

I have a 13 week old actual age (7 week adjusted age). He is currently on a 3 hour schedule beginning at 6am. I have 2 questions (many really, but 2 for today):

His last feed-wake-nap cycle is at 6pm (so he sleeps from 7:30ish-8:45pm), then I start his bedtime routine of bathe, nurse, rock, sing, sleep. He starts nursing at 9pm then will go down about 9:45pm. Is this hour gap too close to his wakeup time from his nap at 8:45pm? I can't figure out how to do the last feeding. I don't get home from work until 6pm so I don't want his bedtime any earlier.

Also confused about the first feeding. He still gets up at least once in the night to eat. I want his day to begin at 6am so I can spend time with him before I leave for work at 8:30am. If he last eats at 4:30am, do I still turn around and feed him at 6am?

Thanks so much. What a wonderful resource this site is!

Plowmanators said...

mindibz,

No, that isn't too short of a gap. He will be very tired at that time of day, so short is good.

Yes, you still wake him and feed him at 6 even if he last ate at 4:30. For more on that, see "early morning feedings before waketime"

Alicia said...

I have an 18 month old and I thought I had the sleeping thing down until the last week or so... he is going to bed later and later. We are consistent with our routine but as soon as we start to walk out he stands up and starts screaming and jumping in bed until we go back in and sing more songs. Last night it took us over an hour to get him to sleep and we had to stand by his crib and sing until he was asleep. Normally I would have just let him cry but he has a gag reflex and cries so hard he thows up! I don't know what to do and can't figure out why bedtime is getting so hard. Also naps are not even there anymore and I know that is probably a lot of my issue but I can't get him to nap in his crip anymore. Please any suggestions!?!?!?!?!

Plowmanators said...

Alicia, I think you need to evaluate what has changed. If he has always been a great sleeper and now suddenly isn't, what has changed? What are you doing differently?

If there is absolutely nothing, then what hasn't changed but needs to? You said naps aren't going well. Are you still trying to do two? If so, he likely needs one. If he isn't napping at all in the day, then he is probably upset at night because he is overly tired and having a hard time falling asleep.

Katie said...

I have a 4 week old on a 3 hour routine starting at 7 am. I would like to start a bed time routine but I'm a bit confused about how to incorporate it with BW. Would I feed him at 7 pm, have 30 - 45 awake time and then spend the last 15 minutes or so doing the bed time routine so he is down by 8:30 or so?

Plowmanators said...

Katie, no, you would start the routine pretty much immediately following the last feeding. The routine time would count as the waketime. Exactly when you start will depend on exactly how long he can be up plus how long your routine takes you.

Misty said...

I have a question too about bedtime....and nursing. My 4 month old twins currently nurse around 7am, 11am, 2pm, 5pm, and then I give them a bottle of pumped breastmilk around 7pm....then to bed. I don't know why we started the bottle.....grandparents wanted to feed, etc. I now wish I nursed them at that time. I'm scared they will not get enough milk (my supply seems so low in the evenings, especially since I nurse at 5pm). They have been sleeping through the night for a few weeks now, and I'm scared to mess it up! What are your thoughts?

Amber said...

Thank you for your blog! Do you believe the order in which you feed and bath makes a difference in the long run? I see that you bath in the morning. I have a 5 month old. We currently bath, feed, sing, say prayers, go to bed. But I have this image in my head that at some point I will have a toddler who eats with the family earlier in the evening, then bathes and goes to bed. Should I be starting this routine now or will it naturally progress to where he no longer has to eat right before going to bed to make it though the night?

Plowmanators said...

Misty, do you pump at that time (7 PM)? If so, at this point you could try nursing and see how it goes. If not, I would pump for a couple of weeks first at that time.

Plowmanators said...

Amber, it will naturally progress. I wouldn't worry about it right now :)

Rachel said...

Hi! I have read the book but this is my first time on the site. It is great! I have an 8 week old son and I have been following Baby Wise since he was about 5 weeks. He is on a 3 hr schedule and we are working on CIO for naps. He only likes to nap in his swing! At night I feed him at 830 pm. If I let him sleep, he will sleep for 5-6 hrs. When I wake him to feed between 11-1130 pm; he only sleeps for 3-4 hrs. How do I get him to sleep longer? Should I skip the 11 pm feeding if he's sleeping and see how long he sleeps? I am consistent with his daytime feedings and naps (when he naps!) but can't seem to get him to sleep thru the night. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! Rachel

Plowmanators said...

Rachel,

If the dreamfeed is not helping him sleep longer, I would not do it.

Have you ever looked into reflux? Him not wanting to sleep unless he is sitting up in the swing makes me wonder.

bleuminicooper said...

My daughter, who is 11 MO has started over the last month waking up in the middle of the night. We have been very strict with our routine. She goes to bed at 7pm and wakes up at 7am. She only has two, two hour naps a day.
When she was ten MO she had her first two teeth come in, had an ear infection, and a cold. It took weeks for her to get over the infection. We have tried everything to adjust her schedule and still cannot figure out why she is waking up (sometimes multiple times) in the middle of the night. On some nights she wakes up and just needs me to come in and rock her, and other nights she is up ready to play.

Her schedule looks like this:
7am-Wakeup Nurse, Solids
9am-Nap
11am-Wakeup, Nurse, Solids
1pm-Nap
3pm-Wakeup, Nurse, Snack
6pm- Solids
7pm-Nurse, To Bed
10:30-Dreamfeed (to keep up milk supply)

My daughter will typically wake up around two-thirty every night. Sometimes I can just change her diaper and she will go back to bed. Other times, she is hungry and will take a full feeding before she goes back to sleep.
I have tried increasing her solids, she takes typically two veggies and fruits at each meal.
Our schedule hasn't changed. The only thing I can think of is that she didn't eat a lot of solids while she was sick. Is it possible for the two teeth to bother her for a month? Can she being going through a growth spurt? Or could it be that she is learning so much right now(crawling, trying to walk etc.) that she can't sleep? Her naps during the day have also been hit or miss. Sometimes she takes amazing naps and other days she just sits and talks to herself. I feel like I have tried everything to troubleshoot this issue and nothing is working. I have read all the related blog posts and I am still at a loss. And I really need my sleep!

g8rMaya said...

Hi Val, your blog has been so helpful! We did BW with my first son who is now a little over 2 and it's been great. He is a great sleeper and I know it's b/c we worked at it when he was a baby. We had another boy 11wks ago and have been doing bw with him since about 3wks old. We are current on a 3-3.5hr schedule but have been having a really hard time with 45min naps these last few days and I can't figure it out. I can't really adjust the wake times bc if he's waking 45 min in and CIO off and on until next feeding, his wake times are all wacky to begin with. I saw somewhere on your blog that normal naps on 3hr ached are 1-1.5hr long - I thought they were 2hrs? My ds wake time is only about an hour so if he only naps for an hour or hour and half, how do you keep a 3hr sched? What do u do b/w the time he wakes and the next feeding? He is also still waking up to eat 1x at night but I'm hoping we're almost to the point of sttn as he's been going a little linger these last few nights (my oldest sttn at 8wks with df and slept 12hrs at 12wks do I'm hoping my lil guys figures it out soon! His current sched is eat 7a, 10a, 1p, 4p, 7p with df around 11p and then he wakes around 5a for mon feed. I generally put him for naps around 8a, 11a, 2:15p and then a catnap in swing b/ 5:30-6 with bedtime around 8. Do you have any suggestions?

Plowmanators said...

bleuminicooper,

You really have a lot of things going on that could all be causing it. Teething, new skills, growth spurt, sickness, need to catch up on food because of decreased appetite with sickness and teething. The teeth could possibly be bugging her.

The only thing you can do is take it one thing at a time and try to isolate it and solve it.

But do know that it is very possible that the dreamfeed is causing her night wakings. Hogg says if you keep the dreamfeed too long, it can interfere with night sleep and make it so she doesn't sleep as well. I would drop that and then just pump to add extra stimulation.

Plowmanators said...

g8rMaya,

You might try moving your dreamfeed time earlier to see if that helps with the night.

As for naps, BW says 1.5 hour nap is normal, but the times don't "Add up"--I have a post called "eat/wake/sleep cycle" that can answer some of your questions. Make sure you also see the posts on nap issues.

Joy Dodge said...

Love, love, love your blog! My 10 week old was STTN (7-8 hours) around 8 weeks. All of a sudden for the past week and a half, he is only doing 5-6 hours. We read your trouble shooting with night time sleep, and we've let him cry, gone in and attempted to soothe him, given him a paci...but he is starving. He has a feeding between 8-8:30, then a dream feed at 10:30. I BF every 3 hours or will do 2 1/2 if he wakes early from a nap hungry. Do you think this is a growth spurt or am I doing something wrong?

Also, at night, would you bathe then feed at 8-8:30, then put him to bed or feed (8-8:30), bathe, bed...then dream feed?

Meagan said...

Hello, my son is 5 weeks old. The day we brought him home from the hospital we tried putting him in his pack n play bassinet and he cried and cried. We were both so exhausted we ended up letting him sleep on us in the recliner because it was the only way we could get any rest. We have tried ever since then to keep putting him in his bassinet the but he still cries when you lay him down. He has gotten better and will sometimes stay asleep for 30-45 minutes. We just started trying babywise this week. He did good on the naps the first day, but at night when we put him down he only stayed asleep for 40 minutes. We let him cry for about 15 minutes and then went and tried to comfort him by patting and talking to him. However, he kept crying after that. I am confused on what our next step should be? I am exclusively breastfeeding. Any advice would be appreciated.

Jobalds said...

I was wondering if you could give me some advise, my baby is 7 weeks old and has been sleeping in her carseat as she just wouldn't sleep in her Moses basket. I now need to get her into crib, any tips??? Do I let her just cry it out? For how long? Thank you. This site is amazing! Especially for new mommas!

Rinette said...

Thanks, I love sleep routine and both my foster children do very well on it. The 8 months old baby girl even starts jawning and rubbing her eyes as soon as I put her in her crib! Very funny.
Rinette, Pretoria

Ashley Dickerson said...

Hi!  I was having a REALLY rough night last night with my 3 wk old (up crying from 1:16-3:05 AM) and found a link via Pinterest to your article: Newborn: Sleeping Through the Night! 

We started following the plan today and had success until about 7.  It was time for nap and I knew he'd need one and wouldn't be able to stay awake till 10, however he fought it big time.  He was clearly sleepy (yawning and trying to fall asleep), but unable to sleep.  After about 30 mins of no luck and him vigorously trying to nurse on my shoulder, I went a head and nursed him again.  This time he fell asleep (right around 8).  So we let him sleep till about 8:45 woke him, with the intentions of keeping him up till the 10 pm feeding.  He whaled the whole time.  Not just cried, but whaled.  Then he finally went to sleep around 10:36, but woke up within 10-15 mins and was historical again.  My husband went up and was able to get him down for the night around 11:40.  He then was down for the night waking just past the 3 hr mark for a feeding the rest of the night.  Did we do something wrong in the evening to make it so hard for him to get to sleep.  He's been going to bed around 8:30 and sleeping 3-4 hrs and then up every 2-3 hrs.  It was nice ti see him successfully sleep 3 hrs all night! 

Is this what I should be doing at 3 wks?  If so, I'll keep at it.  I just want to make sure I'm doing this the way it's intended.  Thank you for any info you have!

Jess1602 said...

I just found your site and I really like it. I have been reading it a lot. My 7 month old is acting so odd this last week and a half. He has been STTN for a long time and just last week started waking up crying. I am losing my milk supply so we have been integrating formula. The first night he woke up and was hungry. The next 4 nights in a row he wasn't hungry. I changed his diaper, nothing. I rocked him and sang until he was almost asleep, but as soon as I put him down he started really crying. He has four teeth already and his top teeth are coming in and I can tell they are hurting him. It seems like he is waking up at night and can't relax enough to go back to sleep on his own. He would fall asleep while I rocked him and would cry really hard when I put him down. He would be up for at least two hours, then would finally be sound asleep when i put him down and would sleep fine until the morning. After 5 days of this every night he went back to normal for two days. Then he started waking up and doing the same thing again. Last night I went in and sat by his bed and patted his tummy for 45 minutes while he cried. I left and let him cry for another 30 minutes until he fell asleep. He seems to do worse when we go in. I have no idea what else to do. Is it bad if he cries for over an hour? It seems a bit excessive, but so is being up for 2 hours every night. If he wakes up tonight I will see how he does just trying to put himself back to sleep.
His current schedule looks relatively like this:

6:30-7 (6:30 when he sleeps through the night) wake up
7:15 Breakfast-solids
9:30 Nap- usually sleeps for 1.5 hours
11:15 Lunch- solids
13:00- Snack-solids(I have found if he doesn't have this snack he only sleeps for about 50 minutes)
14:00- Nap- usually 1.5 hours
16:30 Dinner- solids
18:00 Start bedtime routine- Bath, Pajamas, Story
18:30 Bottle of Breast milk or Formula
19:00 Asleep for the night.

Sometimes he falls asleep while he eats his bottle. It's not a sound sleep but by the time I burp him he is pretty out. When I put him in his crib he usually finds his blanket, puts it in his mouth and is sound asleep.
Does his schedule look ok? Should I move his afternoon nap earlier and feed him twice in the evening? Is it normal for kids to go through a stage when they wake up like this? Should I let him cry it out until he stops waking up? Sorry for so many questions, I am just at such a loss right now.

Lilbitaim said...

I have a 6 week old and need help starting a night time routine. She does fine with naps during the day but at bed time when I lay her down she wakes right up. Is there any tricks you could share? Is it to late to start her on schedule because we do t have a steady schedule?

Valerie Plowman said...

It definitely isn't too late! My oldest was about that age when we started a routine.

Decide what you would like to do. What we do is pjs, then stories, prayers, then we did 4 S's as baby. You can do what you like. Just start early enough to get bedtime on time.

Mommy2twins said...

Please help. I have identical twin 5 month old girls (gestationally 4 months) that have been wonderful sleepers. At 3 months old they consistently slept through the night 8pm till 7:30am. I never had to let them CIO. They also require a lot of sleep during the day, they are on a 3 hour schedule and would sleep like 4 times a day. they did this on their own-almost couldnt go like 45 minutes without a nap. I am not use to this cause I have a son who never slept this much. Their first nap of the day for the last month or so was only 45 minutes, then the next 2 naps were anywhere from 1 1/2 hours to 2 hours and the last is a catnap for like 30 minutes. I thought this was a problem as the 2 naps were so close to one another. they were in a great mood however.Now all of a sudden they are waking up 45 minutes for each of the naps. The first nap they are as happy as can be. By the second nap they are in a terrible mood-I have resorted to letting them CIO and they will fall back asleep after maybe 5 minutes but then the other child wakes, falls asleep and then it goes back and forth like this for 30 minutes. By that time i am taking them out-as I dont want them to associate their cribs as an unhappy place. This was starting to happen and they would cry when I would lay them down. This has been going on for a week now. I have tried everything with the sleep intruder methods- I was even able to intercept 2 days and keep one asleep by patting and she fell asleep. Nothing has worked on other twin. Now again they are both doing it. I want my happy babies back please! I have tried adjusting their schedule getting them up earlier-doesnt help- I have tried playing with them harder-by the time they go to sleep they are so tired they are crying when I lay them down but they fall asleep relatively quickly. At night time they dont really fuss at all so I am clueless on what to do. could it possibly be teething? My son had teeth at 4 months old (i dont see theirs coming through-however they are constantly having their fingers in mouth). Any advice would be greatly appreciated I feel like I am regressing:(
Typical day is
-7:30 wake up they are in a good mood and usually talk in their crib until almost 8 am I dress and feed them solids and bottle at 8-we play
-9:15 to 9:30 typically lay them down. Only sleep 45 minutes. I tried to let them CIO on this nap and it was horrible almost 30 minutes. Letting them the other 2 wasnt as bad.
-11am feed bottle. we play until about 12:15 they are so tired and cranky I lay them down. This use to be a long nap to almost 2 now they are waking up 45 minutes later and sometimes earlier
-2pm feed bottle. Again we play. 3:30 we lay them down. Again this was another long nap now it is only 45 minutes
5pm-solids and bottle. The poor napping has them crazy at this time. I do not play hard at all I usually go walking with them (my exercise and they will nap like 30-45 minutes) or have them in swing. They typically sleep another 30 minutes.
7:30 give bath and then around 7:45 bottle and then bed. They go on own very easy at this time. Thanks again I am going mad as i feel like not leaving the house until i get them back on track-they are not happy babies. Again the nap problems have been going on last 2 weeks and really bad this week.

Gigi m said...

hi! Thank u for ur posts. IV been reading a lot and it helps. My problem and question is during the day eat/waketime/nap. I have 4 wo and I don't have problem putting her to sleep at night 9pm and on. I change her diaper, nurse, then burp her then to bed. Is that ok?

My main problem is during the day when I make sure she has waketime after feeding, I feel she gets too stimulated and awake that even i she shows signs of being sleepy, she will stay fussy and cry wen down for her nap. I have tried CIO for 10-15 mins, then shhh/tap, then rocking her but she stays fussy. I have found if I nurse her, then add waketime and then nurse again and then burp, she gets very sleepy and is easier to put in bed and sleep thru her naps longer. But is this wrong for me to do? She does not really fall asleep nursing but gets sleepy and when I burp her, she does wake up but stay sleepy and ut her to bed like that. Is that still ok or am I setting her up to be too dependent on me?

Valerie Plowman said...

Some babies can do that and supposedly not have dependency on it later on. Most will create a dependency, however

You will have to go with your gut. There is no way to say for sure how she will react in the future. You can guess pretty accurately, but can't know for sure.

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