The dream feed is that feeding that happens around 10-11 PM. You get baby up, feed him, and put him back down. He often doesn't even wake up for it! For more on what a Dreamfeed is, see Dreamfeed FAQs.
When To Drop the Dream Feed You know it is safe to drop the dream feed when the following are true of your baby:
- Baby is sleeping through the night (STTN) consistently. By that I mean that he is staying asleep from the dream feed until your desired waketime in the morning. Many babies start doing this, then wake in the night, then back to sleeping through, back and forth. My babies ALL did this. Wait to drop the dream feed until the baby is sleeping through so consistently that you would be surprised for baby to wake early. Once you drop the dream feed, you don't want to wonder if baby is waking early because he needs the dream feed or because it was just one of those days.
- Baby has been STTN consistently for 2-4 weeks. This is for your own confidence. If baby has shown that STTN is his thing now, you will have a solid foundation if you need to problem solve after dropping the dreamfeed.
- Baby doesn't wake up for the dream feed anymore. You have to wake baby up every night. Note that this is one of the signs. If your baby does this but does not sleep through the night, it does not mean baby is ready.
- Baby is old enough that the appropriate number of feedings will still be met if you drop the dream feed. You don't want to drop the dreamfeed if that means baby won't be getting enough feedings for his age in a 24 hour period after you do so.
- Move the time for the dream feed back by 10-15 minutes slowly. This could be each day, every couple of days, etc. Decide what is best for your baby. Move it back until you are too close to the evening feeding. So if you dream feed at 10 and the evening feeding is at 7, move it back until you reach 9, then drop it altogether.
- Drop it cold turkey. Just don't get baby up and see what happens.
- Slowly decrease the amount eaten at the dream feed, either by fewer ounces or less time nursing. Decrease amount daily or every couple of days.
When dropping the dream feed, you need to be sure your last feeding of the day is about 12 hours before your baby's waketime. So if you wake at 7 AM, start the last feeding anywhere from 6-7, depending on your baby's needed sleep at night. You could even do 7:30. Just be sure it is late enough baby won't get hungry in the night.
Related Posts/Blog Labels:
- Poll Results: Did You Do a Dreamfeed?
- Dreamfeed FAQs
- Dreamfeed Log
- Reader Dreamfeed Questions
- Mom2Cohen said...
I was just reading about "dream feeding" and it sparked a thought. We started late (as you know) with Cohen and since we have started he has actually done quite well...at night anyhow. Basically where we are right now is: Go to bed at 7:30, wake at 12:00 (he wakes up consistently every night at this time), feed him and put him back down. He usually sleeps until about 5:30 after that feeding. I would obviously like to NOT have to get up at midnight to 1:00 every night so I was wondering if I should wake him for a "dream feed" instead. Or should I just try to wean him from eating at all? I am confused...any advice. BTW...he is three months old and we have been doing Babywise for about 2 weeks.
January 7, 2008 4:26 PM
It is worth a shot, but don't hold your breath.Kaitlyn didn't dreamfeed. She ate at 8:30 then went to bed. Over time that feeding moved back and became a dreamfeed. When she was about 8 weeks, I decided to try a dreamfeed. I went in, woke her up, fed her. She woke earlier in the night than she usually did, and twice instead of once! It then took her a week to get back to where she was before I tried the dreamfeed.That is just a warning to you that it might not work, but I do think it is worth trying. At three months, 7:30 is an early bedtime in that he won't make it until the morning. He will definitely need a night feeding in there. If you try something at 10 or 10:30, it might work. Let us know how it goes!
January 8, 2008 11:09 AM
- Dyers said...
I need some advice... I am a first time mom and my daughter is 10.5 weeks old. She has slept through the night since 6.5 weeks. Now she is currently sleeping from 9-930pm to 7 am. I am questioning what to do about her schedule. Currently I feed her at 7a, 1030a, 130p, 4p, 7p. I consider her bedtime 730p. I then wake her at 9-930pm for a last feeding. For the past several days she will not hardly wake up at 9 to eat. I think she would be satisfied with 5 feedings per day (I am exclusively breastfeeding). But the problem is that between naps she can only stay up 1.5 hours max. My first question is is it to early to drop the 9p feed. And how can I adjust her schedule so that she gets 5 feedings daily but so that I am not having to wake her at 9p to eat? I can't figure out what to do. I would love any advice or comments. Thanks!
February 6, 2008 1:08 PM
Dyers,You are right at the age where most babies move down to 5-7 feedings a day. This information is found on page 123 of Babywise. This page also says most babies drop that late-evening feeding (aka dreamfeed) between weeks 12-15. You are very close. You are the parent--if you find that she is ready to drop that dreamfeed, give it a go. You can maintain your same feeding schedule and just eliminate that 9:00 feeding. See the dropping the dreamfeed post for information on that:http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/dropping-dream-feed.html
February 6, 2008 2:37 PM
- alicia said...
My 3 month old daughter usually eats at 6:30 and is asleep by 7:30. I wake her up to eat at 9:30 for a dreamfeed, otherwise she wakes at 2 a.m. With the dreamfeed, she wakes up at 5:00. I would like her to wake at 6:30 and eventually eliminate the dreamfeed. Right now she sleeps the entire time and eats very little then. How can I adjust her routine to get her to sleep later? Should I wake her up later for her dreamfeed? Or should I try to adjust when she eats her last meal? Thanks for your help!
March 8, 2008 9:44 PM
I would try adjusting the dreamfeed time. Maybe move it back an hour. You might have to experiment with the time. You could start with moving it 30 minutes. It isn't a guarantee that it will work, but it is worth a shot!
March 9, 2008 4:19 PM
- Karen said...
I have a 12 week old and I am trying to figure out when to start dropping the dreamfeed. She starts her day with a 6am feeding and her last feeding of the day is 10pm...we all enjoy sleeping through the night. She does well on a four hour schedule but I am wondering how to make sure she gets enough ounces in a day if we drop this last feeding. She was unable to breastfeed so I pump my milk for her and I'm able to monitor how much she eats pretty closely. How do I work towards dropping this last feeding but still make sure she is getting enough to eat?
March 18, 2008 7:02 PM
You might need to wait for a bit. Typically, dreamfeed is dropped before you move to a 4 hour schedule, so since you did the 4 hour first (which is fine), you might need to keep that dreamfeed around longer than usual to ensure the right number of feedings are in a day. My guess is you have 5 feedings a day if you start at 6 and end at 10 on 4 hour schedule. The earliest she could move down to 4 feedings a day would be 16 weeks, perhaps as late as 24 weeks (some babies need 5 a day longer). So you should hold on to the dreamfeed for another 4 weeks at least. One option would be to shorten your feeding schedule so you could end the day sooner, but not drop a feeding. Remember a combo 3-4 hour schedule is okay. You want to keep 5 feedings for now. If you do move the schedule up, be sure right now (until 16 weeks) you don't let more than 9-10 hours go between pumping sessions for you.
March 19, 2008 10:01 AM
- david, blair, and sadie beth said...
Hi! Thanks for your recent posts...I've enjoyed them! I've been debating what to do about the DF with my daughter, who is now almost 6 1/2 months old. We still do a DF at 10:30pm. She rarely will wake up during it and goes right back down now problem. My guess is she would sleep through without it, but I'm concerned about keeping my milk supply up if I'm only nursing 4 times a day. It seems that I have read that to have a reliable milk supply you need to nurse at least 5 times a day (or pump). Unfortunately, my body simply won't pump, (and I have a good electric pump). I really can't risk losing my milk because formula is expensive and we'd like to avoid that cost if at all possible. I'd like to drop it though, simply so my husband and I can go to bed before 10:30! Recently, we've been dealing with some early waking due to illness, not eating solids, and being on 2 very strong antibiotics that are messing with her poor little body...so I probably wouldn't even think of dropping it until we move past all this. Any thoughts?Thanks, Blair
March 29, 2008 8:17 AM
Blair,It is hard to say. I do fine with four feedings a day, but some women really do need that 5th. One thing you could try is to move the DF back a bit. It would give you a slightly earlier bedtime :) Have you tried the tactics of looking at a picture of your baby or thinking of your baby while pumping? You might want to see if you can contact a lactation consultant for ideas on how to successfully pump.The hard thing is that at some point she is really going to need to not have the DF--it will likely start to become a disruption for her. I would see if you can solve the pumping thing. I would also wonder if you could pump and get the stimulation even if no milk comes out. That would be something to ask a LC. Good luck!
March 29, 2008 10:54 AM
david, blair, and sadie beth said...
I've tried just about everything to resolve the pumping issue, but I might try again since it's been awhile. I've talked to LCs before and didn't have too much luck, but I just switched to an OB that has one on staff so I might try to set up a time to meet with her. You mentioned that you expect the DF will become a disruption...did that happen for your kids? How do you think it would be disruptive?
March 29, 2008 11:37 AM
Blair, The dreamfeed gets disruptive because you want your baby to have 10-12 hours of consecutive sleep without disruption. If she is in bed after the DF by 10:45, then she would need to sleep until 8:45. The dreamfeed disrupts that full nights sleep. Often babies will start to not sleep as soundly with that disruption.
April 2, 2008 10:49 PM
- momtobobby said...
I have an 11 week old and he eats at 7pm and goes to bed at 8pm. I wake him at 10:00 for a dreamfeed and he then sleeps until 5:30 or 6:00. Recently, he has been difficult to wake for the DF and he only takes 3 oz. when he normally takes 6oz. Is this an indication that he is ready to drop the dreamfeed? If so, how do I do that? He is on a 3 hour schedule and usually gets 30 oz. a day. Also, should I let him CIO until 7am? Thanks for your help!!
March 31, 2008 10:16 AM
I wouldn't drop the DF until he is sleeping until your desired waketime. Your baby is still young and actually sleeping well for his age. If you think he can make it to 7, you can try CIO. Otherwise, I might give him a few weeks to see if he does it on his own. Here is a post for more ideas:Early Morning Feedings Before Waketime: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/01/early-morning-feedings-before-waketime.htmlGood luck!
March 31, 2008 11:20 AM
- misty said...
my baby is 10 weeks old today. she has been STTN for about two weeks. her feed schedule is as follows:
the 10pm has become a dream feed. i have to wake her for this feeding. i am breast feeding and it takes a few minutes to get her to latch on and then she pulls herself off after about 8 minutes or so (I usually take her off after 10). I try and get a burp out of her then I have to struggle to get her on and feed for 5 or 6minutes. I know she is sleeping during this feeding time. So my obvious question is...what should i do? And when should i do it? I'm a first time mom so this is all very new territory for me. I constantly refer to the book, but can't quite find a clear answer. I have started at 9:45 and 9:30 on occasion and she has still slept anywhere from 6:30-7:00am.
March 31, 2008 5:11 PM
BW says WEEKS 9-15Baby can gradually move to 9-10 hours of continuous sleep if breastfed, 11 hours if bottlefedSo, for the next five weeks, the longest she should sleep at night is 9-10 hours. You don't want to cut back because of milk supply. You could move it back a bit if you want to go to bed earlier, but be sure to be within the hours suggested.While it sounds like she is ready to drop the dreamfeed, I would continue to do it until she is closer to 15 weeks. At that time, pick your favorite method of dropping it described in this post (or one of your own) and go for it. It sounds like she is doing very well!
April 1, 2008 2:19 PM
- Rachel said...
At what age do you drop the dreamfeed? My baby is 5.5 weeks old and I feed her about 630,930,1230,330,630,930, and sometimes another time in there if I switched to a 2.5 hour schedule. Do I put her to bed at 7pm after the 630 feeding and then wake her up for the 10pm feeding? Right now she stays awake most of the time from the 630 to the 930 feeding. When do I establish that as bed time?Im so confused... :(
April 6, 2008 5:51 PM
Your baby will be much older when you drop the dreamfeed. See this post:Poll Results: What Age (Approximate) Did You Drop the Dreamfeed?: http://babywisemom.blogspot.com/2008/02/poll-results-what-age-approximate-did.htmlI would put her to bed at 7, wake for the 9:30 feeding, then put her right back down.
April 6, 2008 10:36 PM
- kim said...
thanks for your prompt response. i'll definitely try moving up her dreamfeed by 15 minutes tonight. caitlin woke up this morning at 5:30 instead of 6 am. should i wait till she wakes up consistently at 6, before pushing up her dreamfeed time? if i want to push back her wake time to 7 by 15 minutes, what do you suggest i do. at 2 months, caitlin's napping b/t 1 hr 45 minutes to 2 hours. is this too long? her waketime is pretty consistent at 1 hour.
April 7, 2008 12:03 PM
Kim, I was just organizing comments and saw you had a follow-up question I never got notice of. I apologize! Let me know if you still have questions. I wouldn't mess with the dreamfeed until nights are consistent.
May 7, 2008 10:42 PM
- Susanna said...
Valerie-I'm contemplating dropping the DF for my 16 week old. How do I know he's getting enough calories to hold him over for the entire night? Also, how many feedings are recommended by BW to sustain a baby who is dropping the DF? I'll be taking my baby out of town at the end of the month. WOuld you recommend dropping the DF after we get back or starting now before our trip? I didn't know if trying to do too many things would be too much...Thank you!
May 12, 2008 8:20 AM
You would know there are enough calories if he continues to sleep well through the night. You just make sure he is taking a full feeding at each feeding and then give it a shot. If he starts waking up, you know he isn't ready for that move yet.In regard to the trip, I think it would depend on how long until you go. I would give yourself at least a week before traveling, preferably two. That way you can be sure an night disruptions would be from one or the other, but not both. Know that disruptions and seeming regressions might happen while traveling, but at least you would know it is because of traveling and not because of dropping the dreamfeed. Good luck!
May 12, 2008 2:16 PM